I design first in firefox then revise for IE. Some design aspects can be frustrating to make work in the first place, but the real pain is that next step. Nowadays I pretty much know when something won't work in IE before even opening it, but I always seem to be surprised. It's become a sort of natural expectation that my work will be butchered by IE, but just how it's butchered often catches me off guard. I published a WIP page for the design I'm building for this blog, as a friend wanted to see it. Since I work in linux, it gave me the first opporunity to view the page in IE. I knew perfectly well that it would be broken, but what surprised me most was how certain things weren't broken. Nonetheless, I have my work cut out for me. It's an age–old song, I know, but it's very frustrating having the opportunity to design for good browsers, but having to hobble your work for the likes of IE. At least I don't have to care about NN4 any more—well maybe I should, but I don't, and I don't even feel bad about it.